Thursday, April 5, 2012

Tiered Occupancy: Victory Points

If you haven't read the general overview, please read it here.

One of the greatest hurdles of implementing tiered occupancy will be to work it into the current system. This will be a tricky endeavor, considering the current way that Victory Points and system Occupancy work.

The Current System

Right now, in order to take Occupancy of a system you must achieve a certain number of Victory Points. Victory Points are only gained by offensively taking 'dungeons' (plexes) within a system. The current occupant of the system can prevent their system being taken by defending these 'dungeons.' When a dungeon is successfully defended, the attacker loses victory points from their 'tally' for that system.

Notice: Current occupants do no gain Victory Points. They defend the system by preventing the attacker from gaining VP, and by removing VP from them.

At first glance, I thought Oh, wow, this is going to be a problem --both mechanics wise, and mathematically speaking. How do we make a sovereign militia gain occupancy levels if they can't gain Victory Points? Does it even make sense, really, for the sovereign party to get Victory Points for something they already own on the sovereignty level?

However, using the current system and expanding it to scale with the tiered system, it's actually pretty simple. While on the surface level, it would appear like militias are offensively fighting for occupancy levels, the current system where there exists one defender and one attacker will actually remain in place.

The Details

First, the attacker and the defender would be based on who has sovereignty. This would be similar to how it's currently based on Occupancy.

While an attacker would gain Occupancy levels by taking Victory Points, a defender would gain Occupancy levels based on how many Victory Points they cause their opponent to lose. (You can think of them as negative Victory Points, though technically they wouldn't be getting any points at all.)

  • For example, if a sovereign militia successfully defends a certain numbers of plexes (it's not quite that linear, but for the sake of the example....) then they would achieve a higher lvl of Occupancy in the system.

This makes logical sense and fits with the system, as the Occupancy level of the sovereign faction will reflect their activity levels. (In this case, defense levels)

What About Non-Plex Victory Points?

Part of the system I suggest includes the ability to influence Occupancy levels through other means then plexing. This also, is quite easy when you think about it in terms of offense and defense.

PVP - When an attacker gets a kill, they gain Victory Points. When a defender gets a kill, it takes Victory Points away from the attacker.

Missioning - This is where things are a little tricky, because currently missioning can't really be thought of in terms of defense or offense. People don't defend

There are two, legitimate ways to approach missioning for VP. 

1. You can determine that the ability to mission in a system is a benefit of having sovereignty. Therefore, the (negative) VP gained by these missions would contribute toward the idea that it should be easier to defend a system then to take it. (ie: there would ultiamtely be a purposeful imbalance between the 'opportunity' a defending party has for removing an attacker's VP vs an attacker's 'opportunity' for gaining VP.)

2. You could balance missioning VP out by decreasing the amount of VP the defense of a plex removes from an attacker's tally. In other words, an attacker could gain VP through plexing, and a defender could cause them to lose VP through plexing and missioning. As a whole, missioning and plexing would balance each other out.

I'm not particularly married to either approach, and I see advantages and disadvantages to both perspectives.

Anyway, that's a more detailed overview of how the current Victory Point system could be worked into the tiered approach to sovereignty.

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  1. Interesting stuff here. The idea behind the sliding scale of "negative VP" isn't unlike the "Sansha influence" mechanics in incursions (which I've always resented a little out of feeling that they were how FW occupancy should have worked in the FIRST place, but I digress). I'd be interested to see what CCP thinks of using that idea, since I would think the mechanics are similar enough that it wouldn't be that hard to convert - minor/medium/major plexes replace vanguard/assault/HQ sites, the "commander" is replaced by a bunker, etc.

    Regarding missions, I have... a ton of ideas, which I won't spam out here. :P If you're interested, though, I'd love to chat about them in-game sometime.